3 Jul 2015

Bakery Owners Fined $135,000 For Refusing To Serve Lesbians

Sweetcakes By Melissa owners Melissa and Aaron Klein were fined $135,000 today “in damages for emotional and mental suffering resulting from the denial of service.” Earlier this year, the Oregon couple refused to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple and they have been in a legal battle ever since.
In a preliminary finding, the Kleins were found guilty of discrimination based on sexual orientation. The fine is retribution for their refusing to serve the lesbian couple.
From The Blaze:
“This case is not about a wedding cake or a marriage. It is about a business’s refusal to serve someone because of their sexual orientation. Under Oregon law, that is illegal,” the bureau’s order said.
“Within Oregon’s public accommodations law is the basic principle of human decency that every person, regardless of their sexual orientation, has the freedom to fully participate in society,” it added. “The ability to enter public places, to shop, to dine, to move about unfettered by bigotry.”
The couple reacted to the ruling in a Facebook statement.
“This effectively strips us of all our first amendment rights. According to the state of Oregon we neither have freedom of religion or freedom of speech,” the statement said. “We will NOT give up this fight, and we will NOT be silenced. We stand for God’s truth, God’s word and freedom for ALL americans.”
“We are here to obey God not man, and we will not conform to this world,” it continued. “If we were to lose everything it would be totally worth it for our Lord who gave his one and only son, Jesus, for us! God will win this fight!”

29 comments:

  1. Apparently Ozzie was right. We're going off the rails on a crazy train ...

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  2. Just remember: When you talk to the imaginary guy in the sky that's called prayer, when the imaginary guy in the sky talks to you that's called schizophrenia.

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  3. Its a law in Oregon. If you dont like it move

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  4. Angry much? How many women and gays have you assaulted? You need a mental hospital to work through your dangerous rage. You're a threat to society.

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  5. In what way is the person a threat to society?
    Have you stopped assaulting your children?
    You obviously do not have the first clue about freedom of speech or any other kind of freedom..

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  6. Just remember; the first time he speaks to you and says "no, tell him to go to Hell" he means it.

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  7. Guillotine_ready3 July 2015 at 12:15

    America, it is a nice memory but the current rate of social and national decline is making the memory of the place hard to maintain.
    If you think this is still america you have been sleeping in way too late.

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  8. Insanity. This concept that people lose all of their constitutional rights to freely associate (or not associate) with someone, for any reason whatsoever, just because they happen to exchange their services for value makes me sick. Running a business doesn't mean you're not still a constitutionally protected citizen. It's one thing to ban discrimination by a corporation, since after all corporations are creatures of the state, but as far as a free U.S. citizen not to associate with some person or another during the course of their business people need to get over it, we're supposed to live in a free country.

    Compelling this business owner to serve someone against their will constitutes slavery and it's absolutely wrong. If people don't like this form of discrimination you can boycott the business, but using the violent coercive power of the state in this way is disgusting tyranny. People need to grow the f-ck up... It's not the government's place to protect your feelings.

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  9. The Oregon can pay everyone's relocation expenses, since it's a government 'taking' of value (the value that lost freedom represented.) Then again the free association part of the bill of rights has been incorporated against the states as well, so they shouldn't have to move, the constitutional right to free association is already the supreme law of the land, and supersedes any state or Federal laws to the contrary.

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  10. YOU are just as much of a threat to society as he is, for advocating people be locked up for their constitutionally protected (though harsh) free speech.

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  11. Indeed. We hear nothing in the media of the higher rates of sexual abuse suffered by children of homosexual (especially lesbian) couples. Society got it right long ago that the best family is a mother married to a father with their shared biological children. This is a case of society supporting and focusing biology, and is the basis to much of the rise of civilization. Getting rid of it absolutely is and will coincide with a fall of civilization.

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  12. Evil Liberal, it is NOT a LAW, it is legislation. Legal and Illegal are the opposite of Lawful and unlawful. It is entirely LAWFUL to decline to contract with any one you chose. The state does not have the LAWFUL right to force anyone to contract with another party against their will.

    I suggest you learn the difference between legal and lawful. If someone references an act, statute or code, it is not law. It is simply a rule that has no force or effect unless all parties chose to grant it so.

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  13. yes they do

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  14. Then they should take it up to the Supreme Court

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  15. While I'm sure they will, with a Supreme Court packed full of activist judges willing to disregard the constitution and 'make law' as they think it should be rather than it truly is it's questionable whether their decision would truly be just or constitutional.

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  16. ....but....a 'person' is also a "creature of the state" a corporation.

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  17. Umm, no, a person is not a "creature of the state". A person exists independent of the state. Calling corporation a "person" is a legal fiction perpetrated by the courts, it's not real.

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  18. You are wrong, in 1862 Congress changed the definition of the word 'person' from a flesh and blood man into a corporation....a corporation is a creature of the state, or acting in commerce. That is plenty real enough for the uniformed armed men to chase and shoot you, that is no fiction, even if it really is.

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  19. Do you have a code section you can cite? They may have changed the legal definition to include a corporation as a legal fiction (there are lots of such fictions, for example, someone who adopts a child is considered their "parent", and even given a "certificate of live birth" naming them as the person who gave birth, but this doesn't make it true.)


    A natural born person (what all of us non-corporations are) is not and never will be a corporation and a corporation is not and never will be a natural born person.

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  20. P.S. There is "right" and there is "rule of the jungle" Just because someone can physically enforce something doesn't make it constitutional or even factually correct.

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  21. I would have simply taken my business some where else. Do you really think you would get good service from someone that doesn't want to give it? Doesn't make sense.

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  22. Just because something is legal does not mean everyone has to be forced to support it.


    If I ran a catering business and did not want to cater a wedding by a bunch of pot smokers that would be my right to say, "no I'm not comfortable with that, go somewhere else." Even if pot were legal, its irrelevant.


    Restaurants do that all the time by refusing to deliver to neighborhoods where crime is high for example. A wedding cake is a kind of art, you can't force someone to produce art that they are not comfortable with.


    Whether you agree or disagree, this effects all of us. So now we know leftists are liars when they pose their pretentious questions of "how does this effect you?" What else is new...

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  23. I'm not crazy. I don't hear voices in my head. When I'm dead my brain won't hear anything anymore. Grow up.

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  24. Hoping the Kleins refuse to pay as this is a serious overreach by the state government.

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  25. Well stated.

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  26. You may not be crazy, merely ignorant.

    "God was always invented to explain mystery. God is always invented to explain those things that you do not understand. Now, when you finally discover how something works, you get some laws which you're taking away from God; you don't need him anymore. But you need him for the other mysteries. So therefore you leave him to create the universe because we haven't figured that out yet; you need him for understanding those things which you don't believe the laws will explain, such as consciousness, or why you only live to a certain length of time — life and death — stuff like that. God is always associated with those things that you do not understand. Therefore I don't think that the laws can be considered to be like God because they have been figured out."

    Richard Feynman

    So when you get your second Nobel prize and can explain why consciouness exists, where do ideas come from, what is love, then perhaps you will no longer need a god. Until then you are just some form of slug that crawled from the mud, and has no more understanding than an amoeba.

    "I don't hear voices in my head." Really? then who do you talk to when you are alone?

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  27. You have no clue what all that bs you spun means

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  28. It appears that many of these suits are being instigated by gay people looking for an excuse to "feel offended" and sticking it to the straight society.

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  29. An Act of Congress to Re-Define "Person" in America......37th Congress, Session II, ch 119, 1862. Go and watch Congressman Trafficant's final speech to Congress, look up Resurrect the Republic.com or Dirty Uncle Sam.com, they have about a 12 minute video that highlights all the acts and trickery they did to us.

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